Carmela Coyle, the President and CEO of the California Hospital Association joins Gunnar to talk about the state of hospitals in California. In this deep dive interview, Gunnar wants to how how the hospitals of tomorrow will be shaped by today’s pandemic and if the hospital industry sees telehealth as a competitor in care delivery. Gunnar challenges Carmela on hospital prices and the affordability of care in America. They also talk about how the pandemic has exposed long running social, racial and socioeconomic determinants of health. Finally Carmela talks to Gunnar about managing through a crisis, and shares a few leadership tips in the process.

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